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I have the original game from FASA, and would like to convert some of my old characters to the new system.. Is there any hope of someone figuring out the conversion. I never played the LUG system.. I did try the Prime directive game..
Any help would be appreciated...
Heretic? For trying to use your old characters? Hardly.
No if you start arguing that Enterprise is part of canon, you'll probably get some people's knickers in a bunch.
Don't mention the ridges/no ridges arguments...
Starfleet Marines anyone? :cool:
(/me ducks for cover)
That's no heresy... from seeing the title, I thought at first you were going to say you didn't understand what everyone finds so great about CODA... ;).
I, for instance, like Janeway and hate Kirk. Talk about heresy ... :D
(C5 tries to dodge phaser fire, but can't avoid the photon torpedoes :eek: ;))
I guess there were some conversion rules from FASA to LUG, wasn't it ? So, at least, you could convert from FASA to LUG, then from LUG to CODA (but this may look like a photocopy of a photocopy...).
One day, I'll have to ask how this FASA system worked... I've never seen it.
O.K., first post here (Cadet Horacio reporting for briefing, sir!). I've played/GMed FASAtrek (I liked it), and I've played/GMed LUGtrek DS9 and TNG (I loved them). Next week, I hope I will receive CODAtrek (living in the far corner of France with a smal not-friendly local game store doesn't help having stuff soon :().
After that compulsory introduction, I have only a commentary and a question not about the FASA/CODA conversion...
Commentary: I hope the FASA -> LUG -> CODA conversion works well, because I have tons of FASA stuff half converted to LUG, and I expect converting them to CODA. Please, when somebody tries it, post here the result!
Question: Why does everybody hate ST Voyager and her captain Janeway?
(Disclaimer: I'm Spanish but I've lived in France for some years now, and neither in France nor in Spain Star Trek is very popular in TV, I mean, I did watched TNG, and some DS9, but AFAIK, DS9 never passed fully in Spanish TV, and Voyager never arrived. And in France, I think they are not in any TV right now :( So I've never watched Voyager. My question is a sincere question, not a troll :) )
Horacio
Might want to move the Voyager question to the "Star Trek Chat" forum elsewhere on this board.
I don't think everyone hates Voyager, just some of us. :) The reasons are legion, and I think there are several threads that address them in "Star Trek Chat." Check 'em out.
Oh, and welcome to the boards! :)
All right, this is completely off topic, but since I haven't ever even seen FASA Trek ... I guess it can't be helped ;).
Anyhow, welcome to the boards Horatio! One more fellow frenchy (oh well, sort of ;) ) on the boards! Huzzah! (poor Paul :p)
By the way, just wanted to add that TNG and DS9 can be seen in France every week on CanalJimmy (English and French). I got cable just for that ;). Mind you, TPS gets you most standard European stations free on top of that, so it might be even better (if you understand German, Sat1 usually proposes Trek series, for instance).
Trying desperately to bring this post back on topic ... argh failed! Sorry ;).
Oh, don't worry :DQuote:
Originally posted by Calcoran
All right, this is completely off topic, but since I haven't ever even seen FASA Trek ... I guess it can't be helped ;).
But FASA trek was a really good game. I spent hundreds of hours with it. It was the first game I had seen that proposed you not to roll for normal tasks if you had a reasonable level of competence, and for me, in that D&D era, it was a wonderful change.
But I prefer LUG trek, and it seems I'm going to love CODA trek (it seems I brought it back on topic ;)).
Hey, thanks for the welcome!Quote:
Anyhow, welcome to the boards Horatio! One more fellow frenchy (oh well, sort of ;) ) on the boards! Huzzah! (poor Paul :p)
I don't understand German :(Quote:
By the way, just wanted to add that TNG and DS9 can be seen in France every week on CanalJimmy (English and French). I got cable just for that ;). Mind you, TPS gets you most standard European stations free on top of that, so it might be even better (if you understand German, Sat1 usually proposes Trek series, for instance).
But the cable idea can be studied :) CanalJimmy, hum, I will go to Numericable site for looking for it. Thanks!
Weel, back in topic, I'd like to add that conversions are always a matter of personal viewing, I've found no hard and gast way that works without any tweks... So yes, I'm going to try to convert my FASA->LUG conversions to CODA, but I'm sure it will need some tweaks, and some time...Quote:
Trying desperately to bring this post back on topic ... argh failed! Sorry ;).
A direct FASA->CODA conversion would be a good thing. My FASA trek is right now in Madrid, some 1350 km out of my reach, so I cannot design a fully conversion myself. Anybody wants to try? ;)
FASA-CODA CONVERSION
You got me interested, so I started working on a conversion. Here are the rough guidelines.
Attributes:
CODA FASA
STR STR
VIT END
AGL DEX
INT INT
PRE CHA
PER INT
*PSI PSI
**COURAGE LUC
CODA attribute = FASA attribute/12+4 (nearest).
*PSI= Only converts over for psionically trained characters, otherwise discard.
**LUC converts over to Courage Points, adding 1 to the final value (don't forget to add any speices courage points in too, so humans will get an addtional point).
NOTE: This conversion scale is based on the "typical" human having a score of 40 in FASA and a 7 in CODA.
SKILLS
CODA SKILL = FASA SKILL/8.5 (nearest)
Most FASA skills can be coverted to their CODA equvalents easily enough by lookaing at the name and description.
That should be enough to get the ball rolling.
Heretic?
Burn him! Burn him!
Cue lots of smoke and roasting smells....
What? You mean he's not a heretic after all?
Whoops
Wanders off whistling nonchalantly :)
Now what am I supposed to do with all these marshmallows?:D
Hey, thanks! That's a good beginning :)Quote:
Originally posted by tonyg
FASA-CODA CONVERSION
You got me interested, so I started working on a conversion. Here are the rough guidelines.
What happened to the chocolate and graham crackers?? smores anyone.. wait I was the roast.. :confused:
Since I like to push the limits, The other space games, like Babylon 5 and star wars, would be nice to see for additional races.. but then I am nuts to suggest such a thing, Right.
Not really.
One way to get more races for an RPG is to swipe them from other settings. RPGs are pretty good sources since most tend to tract the sort of information that gamers want.
Most GMs I know have done a lot of this.
Basically look at your source material and try to convert. It really isnt too hard, since most RPGs have enough concepts in common to put you on the right track.
I once converted two species from a SF RPG called Alternity , the T'sa ans Sesheyan into ICON Trek for a campaign. With decent results. Converting them to CODA would probably be easier as Alternity and CODA have more similarilties than Alternity and ICON did.
Heck, with a little work you can turn a Cyberman into a Cylon or even a Borg. :D
I expect that as in LUGTrek, eventually there will be many alien races for CODATREK. But in the meantime (or even if you just want to import a guest species there are a few ways to go).
For example, the D&D 3E Monster Manual can be a great source of alien creatres for a D20 Star Wars campaign.Likewise, LOTR (with will use the CODA rules) could be a good source for adding creatures and gear into your TREK Campaign. From what I've read, it looks like it wouldn't be tough to swipe hobbit, orcs or various pre-industrial weapons.
If you got specific question about conversion just post. You will probably get lots of answers. !
Cylons, where??? Can't even enjoy another chat without the fracking things showing up.... :D
"Oh, don't worry :D
But FASA trek was a really good game. I spent hundreds of hours with it. It was the first game I had seen that proposed you not to roll for normal tasks if you had a reasonable level of competence, and for me, in that D&D era, it was a wonderful change.
But I prefer LUG trek, and it seems I'm going to love CODA trek (it seems I brought it back on topic ;))."
I agree that FASA was a real good game. D&D often frustrated me because it required so many rolls for things you should instinctively know how to do. Even FASA had action points for such things as talking and walking, but didn't require you to make DEX rolls for climbing hills or some such. Personally, I only used Action Points during hand to hand combat. Looking forward to using CODA Trek.
M_F
Hey Tonyg, nice work on this conversion sheet. Excellent starting point. I'm currently converting one of my FASA NPC/SuperSpy characters to Decipher, and have found some skills that don't quite convert 1:1. It's not a complete list, but I thought I'd give a heads-up and show what I've done with them:Quote:
Originally posted by tonyg
FASA-CODA CONVERSION
You got me interested, so I started working on a conversion. Here are the rough guidelines.
SKILLS
CODA SKILL = FASA SKILL/8.5 (nearest)
Most FASA skills can be coverted to their CODA equvalents easily enough by lookaing at the name and description.
That should be enough to get the ball rolling.
Atmospheric Craft Pilot - created a new skill for this, though I can see how this can appear under the Knowledge skills as a specialty.
Bribery - created this as a new skill, though I can see how this should be one of the Enterprise skills picked up if you're creating a Rogue.
Carousing - probably either a Knowledge specialty or a flaw (I say Flaw because this can mean someone who likes to party a bit too much).
Grav. Vehicle Operation - again, I'd put this under Knowledge skills as a specialty.
Swimming - logged as a Sports specialty.
Leadership - you can do this either as a specialty under Enterprise (for business leadership) or create a skill for Starship Command Officers. It could also be a trait in someone with a high Persuasion level.
Value Estimation - put this as an Enterprise specialty skill.
This isn't an exhaustive list, and these skills are probably not all terribly important to Starfleet Officers, unless they're in Intelligence or are assigned to an area of space considered rough terrain.
For those who are converting FASA, hope this helps. Any ideas, let me know. Thanks.
-Maltese_Falcon
Here's my take on them:
Atmospheric Craft Pilot = Systems Operation (Small Craft or Atmospheric Craft)
Bribery = Persuade (Bribe) or Enterprise: Streetwise (Bribery)
Carousing = Persuade (Carousing)
Grav. Vehicle Operation = Systems Operation (Ground Vehicle)
Swimming = definitely Sport (Swimming)
Leadership = Influence (Leadership), but this is also a reflection of the promotion edge, where the character receives bonuses interacting with subordinates within his/her organization. Personally, I'd give the player the choice to distribute "Leadership" between two of the three influence skills: Influence and Persuade
Value Estimation = Appraise
Whaddya mean "one more fellow frenchy" ?Quote:
Originally posted by Calcoran
Anyhow, welcome to the boards Horatio! One more fellow frenchy (oh well, sort of ;) ) on the boards! Huzzah! (poor Paul :p)
Trying desperately to bring this post back on topic ... argh failed! Sorry ;).
Could it be that i'm not the only one ???
Well... now THAT is good news !
As for going back on topic... umm
I'm going to disagree with Sea Tyger on most of his interpretations here. You have been warned. :D
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sea Tyger
[B]Here's my take on them:
I think this would fall under System Operations (Flight Control), unless we're talking about flying biplanes here. Flight Control covers starships and shuttlecraft. If you are talking biplanes and helecopters and such, you just take the Atmospheric Craft professional ability from the Flight Control Officer profession on p. 69 (with the Innovative edge if necessary). Note that even with this ability, you're still using the Flight Control specialty...Quote:
Atmospheric Craft Pilot = Systems Operation (Small Craft or Atmospheric Craft)
After reading the skill descriptions, I'd support Influence (Bribe) more than I would either of these two suggestions.Quote:
Bribery = Persuade (Bribe) or Enterprise: Streetwise (Bribery)
This one would fit a lot better under Influence as well, I think. Possibly even Influence (Charm).Quote:
Carousing = Persuade (Carousing)
Actually, it's definitely Athletics (Swim), one of the existing specialties of that skill.Quote:
Swimming = definitely Sport (Swimming)
While the Promotion and Command edges give you (or your subordinates) bonuses to tests, the actual skill you're looking for could be either Influence or Persuade. Both the leadership/command professional abilities (Combat Leader from Soldier and Command from Command Officer) use a different skill. Based on their descriptions, I'd say that Influence would cover bolstering moralle, while Persuade covers enhancing coordination. Of course, I could see an argument made for Enterprise: Administration. Depending on the aesthetic you're looking for, you should split things among these skills.Quote:
Leadership = Influence (Leadership), but this is also a reflection of the promotion edge, where the character receives bonuses interacting with subordinates within his/her organization. Personally, I'd give the player the choice to distribute "Leadership" between two of the three influence skills: Influence and Persuade
-Chris Landmark
Atmospheric Craft is a Professional Ability described on pg 69.Quote:
Originally posted by Maltese_Falcon
Atmospheric Craft Pilot - created a new skill for this, though I can see how this can appear under the Knowledge skills as a specialty.